Snitch marketing

This flyer has turned up on a couple of college campuses, and it’s probably reasonable to expect there will be more of them:

If you believe someone is an illegal immigrant there are ways you can report them to the authorities

Obviously this isn’t an official publication of the Department of Homeland Security. Debra Monroe, a professor at Texas State University in San Marcos, reports seeing them on her campus; others have appeared on the East Coast.

That’s a real URL, though.

“We are entering,” says the flyer, “an era of law and order in this country.” I dunno. Ratting people out might be legal, but it hardly seems orderly.



  1. ETat »

    8 December 2016 · 9:06 pm

    Really? They jumped the line. They broke the law.They live off you and me. They are criminals.
    If you know someone is has raped-stole-killed and he’s in hiding, would you rat that someone to the authorities?
    No difference.

  2. CGHill »

    8 December 2016 · 9:08 pm

    I’d have to be pretty darn sure of myself before lowering the boom; mere suspicion isn’t quite enough.

  3. fillyjonk »

    9 December 2016 · 7:42 am

    Yeah, “mere suspicion.” I’m not told what kind of disabilities I’m being asked to accommodate in my classes* so I’m not going to add asking to check student visas to my workload. Campus cops can deal with the issue if they want to. They don’t pay me enough, currently, to be that kind of enforcer.

    (HIPAA, don’t ya know. But it was pretty damn obvious when that one guy walked into my class in dark glasses and with a white cane….the learning disabilities are the ones where I never know if it’s going to be something minor, or if it’s going to lead to the student having problems that disrupt the entire class.)

  4. Tat »

    9 December 2016 · 12:15 pm

    Did you skip the “if you have reason to believe”?
    I can picture several scenarios right this minute when – on college campus – one will have just that.
    Example: a legitimate GC, who won maintenance of the college grounds’ contract because his bid was the lowest sends a sub-contractor crew for landscape work. His crew consist of 3 guys who can only speak Spanish, every day composed of different people, and those show up for 3hrs a day.
    Add to it a circumstance that it became known to you they are paid $4 an hr – and voila. You can assume they are illegals with 99.9% accuracy.

    You can bet if I’ve known that I’d be one working for that college – and paying full-blown taxes on my paycheck – I’d call the number right away.

    As to “I’m not getting paid for that, this is a matter for police” – well, it’s not a requirement, but an appeal. Everyone has their own measure of how far involved (s)he wants to be into civil society and what distance (s)he is prepared to go as a citizen of this country.

  5. CGHill »

    9 December 2016 · 1:28 pm

    “Everyone has their own measure of how far involved (s)he wants to be into civil society and what distance (s)he is prepared to go as a citizen of this country.”

    Truth. I think I’m on the more-restrained side of the spectrum.

  6. fillyjonk »

    9 December 2016 · 4:47 pm

    Considering the hoops we must jump through to hire a student worker to help out in lab, I seriously doubt the grounds-crew has any workers who are not legal to work in this country. (In fact, we have to have verifying documents for EVERY hire we do, if we don’t have a US birth certificate for the person).

    And again: they want me to be an enforcer, then they can pay me to add that job on to the one(s) I already do. (I have taught classes as “arranged” classes – unpaid overtime for me – for students whose visas were expiring and they had to finish up, so I think my university takes the whole “are you here legally” thing seriously)

  7. ETat »

    9 December 2016 · 7:04 pm

    These are different things – hiring someone directly, on university’s payroll and hiring a contractor. The latter can bring whoever he wants on the job. All he has to do is to put a nice resume in the “team” pages of the bid package.
    Nobody ever – not even government for their contracts – request copies of SS of all subcontractors, less so – going through checking if these SS numbers are real.
    You haven’t had experience with this, but I had and have, directly for the past year.
    The client has an excuse – the subs of their contractor are legal responsibility of that contractor, and not the Client’s. So everyone makes a show that they do not notice flagrant illegality.
    Most of the illegals would never be in this country if nobody would employ them.

    Don’t know why you keep saying ” they want me to be an enforcer”. Nobody assigns you additional lines to your job description. I read the ad as appeal to your sense of civil duty.

  8. CGHill »

    10 December 2016 · 12:17 am

    Vigilante by proxy! Now there’s a concept to conjure with.

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