Criteria established

A female friend of Neil Kramer’s offers some dating advice to us guys:

Think about her. What can you offer her? If she is a single mother, her children will come first. Can you be a good father figure? A role model? Can she look up to you as a man? Can you be patient and understanding, and appreciate her for her true self, and forgive her for any of her bad moods? Can you look into her eyes, and without words, tell her that she has someone she can always count on? Do you cuddle?

A male friend offers decidedly different advice, at the very same link.



  1. fillyjonk »

    24 February 2015 · 3:18 pm

    Once again, I am reminded of why I am mostly a Conscientious Objector in the War Between the Sexes. (By that guy’s advice? only 86-year-old men would want to date me. Oh nope. So much nope.)

    That said – take the woman’s advice, reverse the sexes, maybe add a “Can you give him his ‘space’ when he needs it? Can you see him going to some event with his male friends and not mind that you’re not doing something with him that YOU want to do?” and it would probably work for women.

  2. backwoods conservative »

    24 February 2015 · 4:49 pm

    According to that guy, I should be dating a 30 year old. That might have its moments, but I don’t think it would last.

    I wonder if he followed his formula far enough to realize that it would mean a 20 year old should date a 12 year old.

    I would prefer to be with a woman who has seen at least most of the same presidents I have.

  3. CGHill »

    24 February 2015 · 5:15 pm

    The rule I learned was half your age plus seven years — like I’m going to get attention from a 38-year-old. (Forty, maybe.)

  4. McGehee »

    24 February 2015 · 5:36 pm

    Age is no guarantor of maturity, but it has its uses. If one could be counted on to objectively his own actual maturity, and know how to spot the appropriate corresponding maturity level in others, the age number would be irrelevant.

    Safest bet for even the best of us is to assume we’re at least 5% less mature than we think.

  5. backwoods conservative »

    24 February 2015 · 6:08 pm

    Well, I’m at least 5% more mature than most people think! So there!

    (stomps out of room and slams the door)

  6. CGHill »

    24 February 2015 · 6:21 pm

    On that basis, I am arguably the world’s oldest 14-year-old.

  7. fillyjonk »

    24 February 2015 · 6:37 pm

    Oh gads, I’m at LEAST 20% less mature than people assume I am.

  8. backwoods conservative »

    24 February 2015 · 7:15 pm

    The Oldest Baby In The World

    by John Prine

  9. McGehee »

    24 February 2015 · 9:00 pm

    In MY opinion, BWC won the thread up there.

  10. Tatyana »

    25 February 2015 · 7:07 am

    We haven’t heard from Italian women yet! gotta be an earful.
    [oh my, nellie-chka still whines about dating and sex. for what, good chunk of 15 yrs? now from my own backyard, god help us. what happened to his california dream? no, don’t tell me]

  11. nightfly »

    27 February 2015 · 1:54 pm

    I’ve heard the “half + seven” rule as well. (Also – always round up.) Makes a lot of sense. I’ve seen first-hand a few times what happens when the crucial “+7″ is ignored, and it’s not good times. I mean, what possible commonality of experience does a middle-age coot like myself have with a typical college sophomore?

    And besides all that, there’s the squick factor. I have recently reached a milestone: one of my coworkers is half my age. As in, young enough to be an adult daughter of mine. I have members of my peer group who did get an early start on family, who have girls in and just out of college. I wouldn’t want any of my peer group gettin’ cozy with a daughter of mine, so why would I seek to do the same?

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